Of Richard Durbin and Treason

About a week ago Illinois Senator Dick Durbin uttered his now infamous Pol Pot/Nazi comparison to conditions at GITMO. While these remarks were inflammatory and hopelessly misguided they didn’t, contrary to what some right-wing bloggers and conservative pundit Hal Linsey claim, amount to treason. Those on the right would have Durbin’s head for allegedly giving aid and comfort to our terrorist enemies. So Linsey et al would equate Durbin with the Rosenberg twosome, Alger Hiss, Benedict Arnold, and John Walker Lind. How nice.

From a Constitutional point of view one could make the argument that Durbin had qualified immunity to say whatever the hell he wanted because his comments were part of a Senate floor debate. Under Article 1 Section 6 Congressmen, “Shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.” If Durbin indeed made his statements outside the protective confines of the Senate Chamber then he might face a different set of problems then incurring the ire of the right.

Since Durbin’s liability hinges on whether his comments were truly treasonous let’s look at the definition of treason. In merry old England the concept of treason was amorphous and carried with it dire consequences. Two types of treason were delineated in the United Kingdom; petty treason and high treason. Petty treason was murdering one’s superior. High treason consisted of: 1) When a man doth compass or imagine the death of our lord the king, of our lady his queen, or of their eldest son and heir; 2) If a man do rape the king's companion, or the king's eldest daughter unmarried, or the wife of the king's eldest son and heir; 3) If a man do levy war against our lord the king in his realm; 4) If a man be adherent to the king's enemies in his realm, giving to them aid and comfort in the realm, or elsewhere. Those found guilty were often hanged, drawn, and quartered. Women found guilty of treason were often burned alive at the stake.

Since the British application of the term treason was arbitrary at best and the punishment was a protracted and cruel execution the Founding Fathers of these United States sought to more clearly and succinctly define treason. As defined in Article 3 of the Constitution treason is waging war against the U.S. or giving aid and comfort to the enemy. The case law on what constitutes treason is fairly settled. In the history of the U.S. fewer than forty prosecutions for treason have taken place yielding a handful of convictions. Even Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were only found guilty of espionage and they sold nuclear secrets to the Soviets. None of the couple dozen or so convicted were found guilty for the utterance of mere words. Aaron Burr was not found guilty of treason even though he allegedly conspired with Spain and England shortly after the American Revolution. John Brown took part in murders just before the outbreak of the Civil War. Brown’s abolitionist acts defied the will of slave owners in the south and he paid for his deeds with his life. During WWII twelve people were punished for treason. Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally were both found guilty of treason for their broadcasts of propaganda designed specifically, by their own admittance, to demoralize our troops.

No one here is defending Durbin or his comments. He was foolish and should beg forgiveness for the stupid analogy of comparing GITMO to some of the most murderous regimes this planet has ever seen. He should be admonished for in effect decrying the military as point men in Bush’s delusional escapade. He should be vilified for comparing our valiant soldiers to those that murdered 12,000,000 Europeans in concentration camps, those that executed 1.5 million dissidents in the Killing Fields of Cambodia, and those who aided Stalin in his megalomaniacal purge of 20 million of his own people in the Gulags of Siberia.

That said I find the groundswell of opinion that Durbin is guilty of treason to be equally as troubling. Apparently some conservatives wish to greatly expand the real definition of giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They would have treason and treasonous activity include criticism and derision of the government. They would wipe their collective butts with the Constitution in order to wreak vengeance on those who would besmirch the reputations of the President, his administration, and/or the military. Before the conservatives fundamentally alter the Constitution they should evaluate the true ramifications of their actions.

We would no more hand out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500 than we would hold people criminally liable for dissent. What is truly frightening about this are the implications. Under the right’s definition of treason nearly any public statement defaming the current president or the military would be considered treasonous activity and thus one could be held on par with Judas Iscariot, Cassius, Brutus, and Ephialtes, some of history’s most notorious traitors. Durbin is a dipshit but Judas he is not.

Shocker...Who'd have thunk it

This from the Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal agency collected extensive personal
information about airline passengers although Congress told it not to and it said it wouldn't, according to documents obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

A Transportation Security Administration contractor used three data brokers to collect detailed information about U.S. citizens who flew on commercial airlines in June 2004 in order to test a terrorist screening program called Secure Flight, according to documents that will be published in the Federal Register this week.

The TSA had ordered the airlines to turn over data on those passengers, called passenger name records, in November.

The contractor, EagleForce Associates, then combined the passenger name records with commercial data from three contractors that included first, last and middle names, home address and phone number, birthdate, name suffix, second surname, spouse first name, gender, second address, third address, ZIP code and latitude and longitude of address.

EagleForce then produced CD-ROMS containing the information "and provided those CD-ROMS to TSA for use in watch list match testing," the documents said.

According to previous official notices, TSA had said it would not store
commercial data about airline passengers.

The Privacy Act of 1974 prohibits the government from keeping a secret database...

TSA spokesman Mark Hatfield said the program was being developed
with a commitment to privacy, and that it was routine to change the official definition of a system of records during a test phase.

Ladies & gentlemen, your government dollar at work. Never let it be said that the axiom of "Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile" doesn't ring true. Yet another fine example of restraint accompanied by a sureptitious wink as the man shakes your hand and reaches around behind you to take liberties with your poop shoot.

The frightening thing is that the American public will hardly notice this story.

And the winners are...

Since I already profiled the worst organizations in sports it’s only right I comment on the best. These franchises have set the bar that all other teams must reach. All have solid ownership, hire great people, they win, and they are amongst the most celebrated and imitated organizations in sports. Without further adieu…

1. New England Patriots-All you have to know is the Pats have three Vince Lombardi Trophies in four years. Only one other NFL team, the Dallas Cowboys, has ever won three Super Bowls in four years. Team owner Robert Kraft was widely criticized when he hired Bill Bellichick but no one is laughing now. Bellichick is now regarded as the best coach in football and maybe one of the best ever. But that’s another argument for another day. When Kraft took over the Patriots in 1994 the team was last in the league in attendance and revenue…they’ve sold out 114 straight games since. Within three years Kraft & Co. turned around a floundering franchise and had it playing in the Super Bowl in ’96. Over the last five years the Pats have been the best team in football and one of the most profitable. In 2002 Gillette Stadium opened. What’s unique about this is the stadium is the largest privately financed venue in sports. Kraft has created the most sound business model in the NFL.

2. New York Yankees-Love ‘em or hate ‘em no one can argue that the Yankees are the most recognizable team in American sports. No other franchise can lay claim to the historical significance that is the New York Yankees. The most visible team in America’s largest city the Yankees own more professional championships than anyone in North America. Enigmatic owner George Steinbrenner has built a team that has won with almost frightening consistency. World Series champs in ’96, ’98, ’99, and 2000 the Yankees have 26 crowns. When you figure the team started in 1903 that’s a title every four years. Some of the most famous personalities in sports have played for the Yankees: Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, and Lou Gehrig are but a few. As a long time baseball hater it pains me to say this but Yankee Stadium is a cathedral. No other venue in sports, save Notre Dame Stadium, has the lore and spine tingling aura of the “House that Ruth Built”. If you’re a baseball fan do yourself a favor and attend a game in the hallowed confines of Yankee Stadium and visit Monument Park, buy a Coney Island hot dog, soak in the experience, and bottle it.

3. Las Angeles Lakers-When then owner Jack Kent Cooke sold his sports empire to real estate mogul Jerry Buss the stars aligned foretelling the future of the most successful North American sports franchise of the last 25 years. Since 1980 the Lakers have won eight NBA championships with only two losing seasons and a gaudy .650+ winning percentage. They own the league records for wins by a franchise and are second in championships. Former General Manager Jerry West built one of the most enduring sports dynasties in America. Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Shaq, and Kobe Bryant were all brought in by West and cemented the mythos of the most financially valuable team in basketball. West not only made brilliant player personal moves he also hired arguably the two best NBA coaches ever. Together Pat Riley and Phil Jackson combined to coach the Lakers to seven NBA titles and twelve finals appearances. The blood feud between Kobe and Shaq has tainted the image of the Lakers but not their legacy.

4. San Antonio Spurs-The forgotten team from central Texas has racked up two NBA titles since ’99 and is well on their way to a third. Not bad for a team in one of the smallest markets on the continent. Originally an ABA franchise the Spurs were a consistently average to good team until Gregg Popovich was hired. In his eight years as head coach Popovich has led the Spurs to the playoffs every year but one. Dell Harris had the Spurs on the edge of greatness but Popovich pushed them over…with a little help from Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Since 1990 the Spurs have had one losing season, and that netted them the lottery pick that would be Duncan.

5. Manchester United-Now some will scoff at the notion of Man U on this list but if you look closely you just might learn a thing or two. According to Forbes Magazine Manchester is the most valuable sports franchise on Earth. With an estimated worth of $1.2 billion Manchester is at least $200 million more valuable than the richest team in North America, the Washington Redskins But overall worth does not paint the whole picture. Since ’93 Man U has won eight English Premier League titles. They’ve also won the UEFA Cup twice in their history. Even though the current ownership situation is in flux Manchester remains the most admired professional sports team in the world. Truly a marketing phenomenon this team’s jerseys and merchandise are coveted in nearly every country with an even timid soccer following. Manchester United is a nearly perfect marriage of marketing, team success, and financial health.

6. Denver Broncos-Pat Bowlen was recently named by ESPN as the best owner in sports. You can’t argue with his results. Bowlen purchased the team in ’85 and immediately put his brand on the Broncos. Five AFC Championships and two Super Bowl titles later the Broncos are still one of the most consistently good/great franchises in sports. In ’95 Mike Shanahan was hired as head coach and has been at or near the top in his profession ever since. John Elway went to three Super Bowls under Dan Reeves but never really had a legit chance to win until Shanahan arrived. Elway had his best statistical and most successful years with Shanny including back-to-back Super Bowls in ’97 & ’98. This team has sold out every home game since 1971 and boasts maybe the most passionate fans in all of sports. In Denver football is a religion and the deities are clad in blue and orange.

7. Detroit Red Wings-If you’re a hockey fan it is impossible to argue with the fact that the Wings have been the best team in the NHL for over a decade. Winners of the Stanley Cup in ’97, ’98, and ’02 the Red Wings have been dominant since the early 90’s. Coach Scotty Bowman directed the team to five division titles before his retirement in ‘02. All tolled since ’90 the Wings have won eight division crowns, four President’s Trophies (awarded for best record), and three Stanley Cups. The list of Red Wings alumni is staggering: Gordie Howe, Terry Sawchuk, Marcel Dione, Steve Yzerman, Sergei Federov, Chris Chelios, Domanik Hasek, and Niklas Lidstrom. As a Colorado Avalanche fan I’ve grown to hate the Dead Wings but I will not deny their achievements. What a segue…

8. Colorado Avalanche-The former Quebec Nordiques came to Denver in ’95 and the love affair began immediately. The key to their success has been Pierre Lacroix. The master of the trade deadline acquisition and free agency Lacroix has brought in superstars Patrick Roy, Ray Bourque, Rob Blake, Paul Kariya, and Teemu Salanne to join team stalwarts Joe Sakic, Peter Forsberg, and Adam Foote. The Avs hold the record for most consecutive division titles in the history of North American sports. Add to that two President’s Trophies and two Stanley Cups and you’ve got one of the most successful sports teams of the last decade. Owner Stan Kroenke bought the Avs, Denver Nuggets, and the Pepsi Center in 2000 and has directed his investments in virtual silence but with a deft touch. Known affectionately as “Silent Stanley”, Kroenke has been one of the most unobtrusive owners in sports, the direct antithesis of Steinbrenner, Jerry Jones, and Al Davis. He’s brought in good people and let them do as they wish. More so than any executive in sports Kroenke knows that he’s not part of the game.

9. Philadelphia Eagles-They’ve played in the NFC Championship four years in a row and just narrowly lost to New England in Super Bowl XXXIX. The Eagles have been a perennial playoff contender for nearly fifteen years and have finished first or second in the NFC East ten times since 1988. They also have some of the most boisterous fans around. Since Jeffrey Lurie bought the team in ’95 the Eagles have been in the playoffs eight times and have over 100 wins. Only the Green Bay Packers have more post season appearances in that time and only four other teams have as many wins.

10. Green Bay Packers-Speaking of the Packers no NFL franchise is as beloved by its fans as the Pack. The only publicly owned team in the four major sports the Packers play in the smallest media market of any other team yet they sell out every game in sun, rain, sleet, hail, snow, ice, etc. Without a doubt the Pack some of the most loyal fans in the world. With nine playoff appearances in ten years, a Super Bowl title, and a stadium that sells out like clockwork the Packers are a model of competitive and financial success. There are season ticket holders in every state and four foreign countries. The estimated wait for season tickets is 30 years. Packers’ fans aren’t going anywhere and if football is a religion in Denver in Wisconsin it’s a birth right.

Honorable mention-Dallas Mavericks, Pittsburgh Steelers, Boston Red Sox, Indianapolis Colts, Detroit Pistons, Miami Heat, Atlanta Falcons

A Public Service

The now infamous Downing Street Memo is getting little to no attention from the media or the American people. This baffles me that they would seemingly give Bush a pass on this. It is vital the details of this memo are ironed out and/or thoroughly investigated. If the memo is a fraud then I'll recant my derision of Jr. and his cronies. If the memo is true this administration is guilty of fraud and corruption that would make Clinton blush.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607_2,00.html

NBA All-Time Draft

We are freaks, sports freaks. Whenever myself & BJ get together the conversation surrounds sports, sports figures, sports controversies, and all things sports. All who have the misfortune of eavesdropping on our little sojourns down sports lane marvel at our fanaticism. We did what we always do, convene yet another all-time draft, this time for basketball. BJ won the coin toss…again. He picked first and he’s got the odd numbered players. Here’s the results…

1. MICHAEL JORDAN
2. SHAQ O’NEIL
3. MAGIC JOHNSON
4. HAKEEM OLAJUWON
5. WILT CHAMBERLAIN
6. JOHN STOCKTON
7. KARL MALONE
8. LARRY BIRD
9. ALEX ENGLISH
10. KOBE BRYANT
11. KAREEM ABDUL-JABAR
12. TIM DUNCAN
13. ISIAH THOMAS
14. OSCAR ROBERTSON
15. CLYDE DREXLER
16. JAMES WORTHY
17. KEVIN MCHALE
18. CHARLES BARKLEY
19. KEVIN GARNET
20. REGGIE MILLER
21. LABRON JAMES
22. BILL RUSSELL
23. JOE DUMARS
24. SCOTTIE PIPPEN

BJ

Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Karl Malone
Alex English
Kareem Abdul-Jabar
Isiah Thomas
Clyde Drexler
Kevin McHale
Kevin Garnet
LaBron James
Joe Dumars

Holy Hand Grenade

Shaq
Hakeem Olajuwon
John Stockton
Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Oscar Robertson
James Worthy
Charles Barkley
Reggie Miller
Bill Russell
Scottie Pippen

They stink on ice

I’m a sports nut. I make no apologies and will remain a fanatic until the day I die. So in my continuing quest to disseminate vast amounts of sports knowledge I bring to you the definitive list of the ten worst franchises in American sports. The losers are…

10. Detroit Lions-These guys have been so bad for so long it almost defies comprehension. Matt Millen has made some decent moves, drafting Roy Williams and Charles Rogers, but the organization as a whole has been mired in mediocrity since the day I was born. But with young players like Teddy Lehman, Boss Baily, and Kevin Jones they potentially have a bright future. The hiring of Steve Mariuci was a good move but the presence of Wayne Fontes in the coaching carousel that is the Lions taints Mooch’s tenure. Fonts had arguably the best running back in the history of football, Barry Sanders, and put him behind a bad offensive line in a run-and-shoot offense. Other luminaries like Bobby Ross, Darryl Rogers, Monte Clark, and Marty Mornhinwig have prowled the sidelines for what was once one of the most storied teams in the NFL. They’ve won one playoff game in forty years.

9. Atlanta Hawks-Attending a home game for this team is like going to a fourth grade band recital. The crowd there is so quiet you can hear the popcorn popping in the concourses. They average fewer than 12,000 per home game and rarely sell out even playoff games. Atlanta has one of the most apathetic fan bases in sports. Even when they had Dominik Wilkins and were competing for playoff spots their fans were still non-supportive to say the least. Far from the most historically inept franchises ever their absentee fans alone are reason enough for inclusion on this list. That and they’ve difiled the NBA hardwood with bad basketball for the better part of the last ten years. Maybe the number two pick in this year’s draft will change their fortune. But then that begs the question…would anyone in Atlanta even care.

8. Chicago Black Hawks/White Sox-For the sake of the economy of commentary the two worst teams in Chicago tie for eighth place on our little count down. A plague on both your houses! The Black Hawks now own the dubious honor of having the longest Stanly Cup drought in the NHL. Team owner Bill Wirtz has been roundly criticized by ‘Hawks fans, the media, and NHL observers for his penny-pinching ways. Jeremy Roenick, Ed Belfour, and Chris Chelios are just a few of the gifted players that have been traded or jumped ship. The Black Hawks' situation is so bad that their flagship radio station recently dropped their contract. On the other side of town is the equally feeble White Sox. Yes, for those of you who don’t live in the Windy City there are indeed two baseball teams in Chicago. Not that you’d know it from all the press coverage they get. Owner Jerry Reinsdorf refuses to pay for talent, their minor league system is one of the worst in baseball, they rarely sell out their home games, and they haven’t won a World Series since 1917. Other than that they’re just fine. *Snicker*

7. Milwaukee Brewers-But for the presence of Bud Selig and now his daughter the Brew Crew would actually be a less-than-wretched franchise. When the league flirted with contraction a couple years ago Tampa Bay, Montreal, Minnesota, and Kansas City were all rumored to be headed for the hatchet. Lost in all this was the fact that the Brewers have been every bit as unsuccessful as any of the teams mentioned but escaped contraction talk for one reason only…Bud Selig. Imagine the size of the egg on Bud’s face if his own team had been scrapped. I’m smiling just thinking about it.

6. New York Rangers-How much money has this team spent on big name busts? Answer: a bundle. The Rangers have been in the top three in NHL payroll for ten years but haven’t made the playoffs since ’96. Players like Eric Lindros, Pavel Bure, Bobby Holik, and Darius Kasperitis have been relied on to turn around this floundering squad but they’ve only succeeded in underachieving and crippling the payroll. General Manager Glen Sather has alienated nearly everyone in hockey and let the best leader the sport has ever seen, Mark Messier, go to Vancouver. What’s the most reliable sign a player’s career is going to hit the skids? They’ll play for the Rangers.

5. Los Angeles Clippers-The only reason this team isn’t number one with a bullet is that they’ve actually shown a flicker of life the last few years. The perpetual anchor dragging down this team is and always will be owner Donald Sterling. The pariah of the NBA, Sterling has admitted he’s not as much about winning as he is about profit. This team refuses to resign young talent, Elgin Baylor is possibly the worst GM in sports, their drafts have been awful, they have no fan base, and they rarely sell out even in the second largest city in America. The Clippers have been so bad for so long it is down right scary.

4. Cincinnati Bengals-The laughable Bungles more closely resemble a pack of constipated wildebeest than an actual NFL franchise. Owners of the overall number one pick three times in the last eleven years the Bengals have nothing to show for such lofty first rounders. The jury is still out on Carson Palmer but Dan Wilkinson and Ki-Jana Carter are amongst the biggest draft busts of all time. Bengals’ owner Mike Brown, much like the aforementioned Sterling, apparently has an aversion to re-signing his own talent. Not to mention the squandering of one high draft pick after another. Their record since 1990 is 80-166. They can't even win a third of their games. ‘Nuf said.

3. Colorado Rockies-They burst onto the scene when Eric Young clubbed a homerun in the team’s first ever at bat. Three years later they pushed the vaunted Atlanta Braves to six games before losing in the playoffs. It’s been down hill ever since. With only one bona fide star, Todd Helton, the Rockies have been mired in last place since the millennium switch. Gone are the days of 2 to 3 million in yearly attendance, the most widely sold merchandise in baseball, and any semblance of competitiveness. To show you how bad the fortune of this team has turned sure fire Rookie of the Year candidate Clint Barmes, who was hitting .325 with 34 RBI’s and eight home runs, was walking up a flight of stairs with groceries in tow when he fell and broke his collar bone. He’ll be out until at least mid-August.

2. Tampa Bay Devil Rays-The only reason they’re not firmly in the top spot is the fact that they’ve only been stinking it up for seven years. The Rays play in the worst venue in sports. Should you ever get the impulse to visit Tropicana Field just lock yourself in a hermetically sealed Tupperware bowl and breathe your own air for three hours. Then for your added enjoyment watch bad baseball on artificial turf. You’ll beg for death inside of thirty minutes.

1. Arizona Cardinals-Speaking of living hell I truly feel for Cardinals’ fans, all seven of them. This team is the gold standard of futility in all of sports. Owner Bill Bidwell may be the most hated owner in America and without a doubt the most incompetent. The last time they won a championship was 1947. Since 1980 the Cards have had four seasons of .500 or better with one playoff victory and they have AVERAGED 5.5 WINS A YEAR in that span. Over the past 55 years the Cards have posted fifteen winning or .500 seasons. The NFL went to a sixteen game season in '78 and since the switch the Cardinals' winning percentage is .361. The Cards have had top ten draft choices seventeen times in the 25 years. They owned first round picks in '90, '92, and '95 but wasted them on supplemental pick Timm Rosenbach, and trades for Randal Hill and Rob Moore. The defining moment for this franchise came when kicker Bill Gramatica blew out his knee celebrating a first quater field goal in 2001. This type of ineptitude is beyond description.

Honorary mention-Minnesota Vikings, Oakland Raiders, Chicago Cubs, Kansas City Royals, New Jersey Nets, Pittsburg Pirates, New York Islanders

Mock Draft of the ages

Football addiction is a deadly disease. Night sweats, uncontrolable fits of rage, and a distant stare are symptoms that accompany FA. So to appease our conditions myself and BJ did an all-time mock draft to determine football knowledge supremecy. We flipped a coin and Beej got the first pick. We each had 45 roster spots to fill and BJ's picks are odd and I chose the even numbered. Here's how it broke down pick by pick, position by position, and starting lineups. BJ's running a 3-4 D and I'm going with a 4-3. Let me know what y'all think.

1 QB JOHN ELWAY
2 LB LAWRENCE TAYLOR
3 WR JERRY RICE
4 LB DICK BUTKUS
5 LB RAY LEWIS
6 RB JIM BROWN
7 RB BARRY SANDERS
8 DE REGGIE WHITE
9 CB DIEON SANDERS
10 S RONNIE LOTT
11 DE DEACON JONES
12 QB JOE MONTANA
13 OL ANTHONY MUNOZ
14 OL ERIC WILLIAMS
15 WR RANDY MOSS
16 WR CHRIS CARTER
17 TE SHANNON SHARPE
18 CB WILLIE BROWN
19 S STEVE ATWATER
20 DT MEAN JOE GREEN
21 DT RANDY WHITE
22 WR MARVIN HARRISON
23 DE CHARLES HALEY
24 DE BRUCE SMITH
25 CB DARRELL GREEN
26 OT GARY ZIMMERMAN
27 OL ERIC ALLEN
28 DB ROD WOODSON
29 OL TONY BOSELLI
30 C MIKE WEBSTER
31 DL TOO TALL JONES
32 RB EARL CAMPBLE
33 RB ERIC DICKERSON
34 TE KELLEN WINSLOW
35 QB DAN MARINO
36 QB BRETT FAVRE
37 LB RAY NITSCHKE
38 LB HARDY NICKERSON
39 LB DERRICK THOMAS
40 LB JUNIOR SEAU
41 S KENNY EASLEY
42 CB MIKE HAINES
43 LB MIKE SINGLETARY
44 DT HOWEY LONG
45 C DWIGHT STEPHENSON
46 G JOHN HANNA
47 DL JOHN RANDLE
48 QB TOM BRADY
49 QB MIKE VICK
50 WR TIM BROWN
51 WR STEVE LARGENT
52 DL LEROY SELMON
53 TE TONY GONZALES
54 OL RUSS GRIMM
55 DL DAN HAMPTON
56 LB CARL BANKS
57 LB ANDRE TIPPETT
58 RB EMMITT SMITH
59 RB WALTER PATYON
60 WR JAMES LOFTON
61 T JACKIE SLATER
62 CB MELL BLOUNT
63 CB DICK "NIGHT TRAIN" LANE
64 S DENNIS SMITH
65 WR ART MONK
66 LB WILLIE LANIER
67 CB ANEAS WILLIAMS
68 T ORLANDO PACE
69 LB WILBUR MARSHAL
70 C TOM NALEN
71 OL JOE JACOBY
72 DE CHRIS DOLEMAN
73 RB OJ SIMPSON
74 RB MARCUS ALLEN
75 P REGGIE ROBIE
76 OL WILLIE ROAF
77 OL DAN DIEDORF
78 DL RICHARD DENT
79 JACK LAMBERT
80 TE OZZIE NEWSOME
81 OL ART SHELL
82 DB DARREN WOODSON
83 S BILL BATES
84 DB DERON CHEERY
85 DB TY LAW
86 K JASON ELAM
87 K MIKE VANDERJAGT
88 P RAY GUY
89 LB JACK HAM
90 DL ALAN PAGE
91 HC VINCE LOMBARDI
92 HC BILL PARCELLS
93 OC MIKE SHANIHAN
94 DC BUDDY RYAN
95 DC TONY DUNGY
96 OC CHARLIE WIES



BJ's roster

QB-1. Elway
2. Marino
3. M. Vick
RB-1. B. Sanders
2. E. Dickerson
3. W. Payton
4. O. J.
WR-1. Rice
2. R. Moss
3. S. Largent
4. A. Monk
TE-1. Sharpe
2. T. Gonzalez
OL-1. Munoz
2. E. Allen
3. T. Boselli
4. D. Stephenson
5. J. Slater
6. J. Jacoby
7. D. Dierdorf
8. A. Shell
DL-1. D. Jones
2. Randy White
3. C. Haley
4. Too Tall
5. J. Randle
6. D. Hampton
LB-1. R. Lewis
2. Nitschke
3. D. Thomas
4. Singletary
5. A. Tippett
6. W. Marshal
7. J. Hamm
8. J. Lambert
DB-1. Dieon
2. Atwater
3. D. Green
4. Easley
5. Night Train Lane
6. A. Williams
7. B. Bates
8. T. Law

Holy Hand Grenade

QB-1. Montana
2. Favre
3. T. Brady
RB-1. J. Brown
2. E. Campbell
3. E. Smith
4. M. Allen
WR-1. C. Carter
2. M. Harrison
3. T. Brown
4. J. Lofton
TE-1. K. Winslow
2. O. Newsome
OL-1. E. Williams
2. Zimmerman
3. M. Webster
4. J. Hannah
5. R. Grimm
6. O. Pace
7. T. Nalen
8. W. Roaf
DL-1. Reggie White
2. Mean Joe
3. B. Smith
4. H. Long
5. L. Selmon
6. C. Doleman
7. R. Dent
8. A. Page
LB-1. LT
2. D. Butkus
3. H. Nickerson
4. J. Seau
5. C. Banks
6. W. Lanier
DB-1. R. Lott
2. W. Brown
3. R. Woodson
4. M. Haines
5. M. Blount
6. D. Smith
7. D. Woodson
8. D. Cherry

Projected Starters

BJ
Head Coach-Lombardi
Off. Coordinator-Shannahan
Def. Coordinator-Dungy
QB-Elway
RB-Sanders
Dickerson
WR-Rice
Moss
TE-Sharpe
LT-Munoz
LG-E. Allen
C-Stephenson
RG-Jacoby
RT-Boselli

DE-D. Jones
NG-Randy White
DE-C. Haley
LOLB-D. Thomas
MLB-R. Lewis
MLB-Singletary
ROLB-A. Tippett
CB-Dieon
CB-D. Green
FS-Easley
SS-Atwater


Holy Hand Grenade
Head Coach-Parcells
Off. Coordinator-C. Weis
Def. Coordinator-B. Ryan
QB-Montana
RB-Brown
E. Campbell
WR-C. Carter
M. Harrison
TE-Winslow
LT-Zimmerman
LG-J. Hannah
C-Nalen
RG-Grimm
RT-E. Williams

DE-Reggie White
DT-Mean Joe
DT-Howie Long
DE-B. Smith
LOLB-LT
MLB-Butkus
ROLB-Seau
CB-W. Brown
CB-M. Haines
FS-D. Woodson
SS-Lott